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(#31) September 04, 2008 4:04:27 PM
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Re: obama or mccain

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Obama. McCain is just a carbon copy of Bush. America needs change and novelty. It needs to help its citizens, not only its corporations and oil companies.

So give it to the men with the least experience. You want change? Lol. That's a funny statement to make.

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(#32) September 04, 2008 4:11:13 PM
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Re: obama or mccain

anml wrote:

vervex wrote:

Obama. McCain is just a carbon copy of Bush. America needs change and novelty. It needs to help its citizens, not only its corporations and oil companies.

So give it to the men with the least experience. You want change? Lol. That's a funny statement to make.

I don't mind experience that much if the candidate is ready to try new things. If he is willing to change the country and make it better, why not?
As for McCain, he always agrees with Bush. If you like Bush, you do well voting for him. Unfortunately, a lot of Americans are tired of Bush and want a country that serves its citizens, as I said. Obama promises that. Now, will he do it? We won't know until he's elected!

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(#33) September 04, 2008 8:56:47 PM
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I say obama.. the promises well if he does them he does them.. but same goes for maccain who said he'd do what he promised which in my view all i can c him doing is war war and more war


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(#34) September 05, 2008 12:24:44 PM
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People say that Obama can give economic change; how can someone, with no experience on a budget such as a city, state, or country, try and change something? It's like a mechanic with no computer knowledge trying to upgrade its components. He's only a senator, not a govenor or even a mayor for that matter. I'm not a Bush lover, however, Bush cannot be blamed for the economic crisis, presidents have NO control over it whatsoever. War? Not the issue, don't focus on that. Other than the "War on Terror," give me one good example that doesn't qualify him MORE than Obama to lead a nation with mere senatorial experience?

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(#35) September 07, 2008 3:26:44 PM
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Re: obama or mccain

OBAMER

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(#36) September 09, 2008 3:34:42 PM
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Obama   .....MCain ..GTFO


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(#37) October 20, 2008 4:50:43 PM
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Obama. Mccain is old,the World needs new ideas

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(#38) October 20, 2008 5:08:48 PM
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Re: obama or mccain

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oh so galvin, obama's mere 4 years in the senate (19/48 months spent on campaign trail and not attending the senate) is sufficient enough to run the usa? or is it because he promises "change" well let me ask you one thing, how do you expect he'll pay for all the change he tells you hes going to do? raise taxes? how does that help anyone? sure it will only be on the upper class making over 250k but hes going to raise taxes to 60%. whats going to stop them from working a little less to get under the 250k line and keep more of their money in the long run?

let me remind you that in the senate you can either vote yes, no, or present. in the 29 months obama spent attending sessions he voted present moreso than not. that proves he is undecisive. you want someone that undecisive to run this country? more proof of his incompetence is that back when mccain voted for the surge and obama voted against it and gen. petraeus advocated it and then it went through and was a complete success obama flopped (as most liberals do) and came out and said that it was a good idea.

what about all of his ties to radical islamics? oh sure call me ignorant but don't try and say that he has no connection with those kinds of people.

face it, obama is a socialist just like every other liberal. what good has socialism done for anything? its capitalism that advances our species, not socialism. socialism leads to communism which is a complete failure and if you say otherwise you don't deserve to even study politics.

PS if obama becomes president it will put our enconomy into the shitter worse than carter did. enjoy your fucking socialism.

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But seriously...don't like (n?)either that much but I'll vote for Mccain

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(#39) October 20, 2008 5:19:18 PM
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neither.
there both horrible candidates

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(#40) October 20, 2008 6:25:35 PM
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Obama Mccain smoke screen 2008.

You realize all these presidents are hand picked to begin with, so whoever they want to be president will be president. Either way were screwed. McCain will be elected croak soon after and Palin will be our president. Or we will have Obama/Biden who argue about everything and vote neutral to just about everything.

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(#41) October 20, 2008 6:57:52 PM
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Re: obama or mccain

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Obama Mccain smoke screen 2008.

You realize all these presidents are hand picked to begin with, so whoever they want to be president will be president. Either way were screwed. McCain will be elected croak soon after and Palin will be our president. Or we will have Obama/Biden who argue about everything and vote neutral to just about everything.

oh god you did not just say that mccain will die after elected because hes old. thats like saying obama will get arrested for stealing some shit because hes black and black people commit crimes, just because mccain is old doesn't mean hes going to die, most of the presidents were old and they didn't die while in office because of it.


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(#42) October 20, 2008 7:14:32 PM
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HE IS 72! THAT'S PRETTY OLD

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(#43) October 21, 2008 12:07:32 AM
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Re: obama or mccain

napalm wrote:

de7h wrote:

Obama Mccain smoke screen 2008.

You realize all these presidents are hand picked to begin with, so whoever they want to be president will be president. Either way were screwed. McCain will be elected croak soon after and Palin will be our president. Or we will have Obama/Biden who argue about everything and vote neutral to just about everything.

oh god you did not just say that mccain will die after elected because hes old. thats like saying obama will get arrested for stealing some shit because hes black and black people commit crimes, just because mccain is old doesn't mean hes going to die, most of the presidents were old and they didn't die while in office because of it.

We will be screwed either way, obama is inexperienced and wordy (he talks in a way that appeals to the voter yet he doesn't 'do' much) mccain on the other hand is old and experienced but is a clone of bush, he will share pretty much the same policies.

No matter who is elected, its the majority of congress that really matters... if the party of majority and party of president is different, nothing gets done.

I'm voting for obama/biden by the way


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(#44) October 21, 2008 1:08:46 AM
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Re: obama or mccain

truth is most people on this forum isnt even old enough to vote


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(#45) October 22, 2008 4:42:23 PM
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McCain

Obama just isn't experienced enough in my opinion . He is only a junior Senator and really doesn't seem to have a total grasp on world events and such. Maybe in time but not right now.

Previously edited by adam (October 22, 2008 4:45:40 PM)


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