- mehcore
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Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
The problem with the concept of time machines is that if one is invented, all theories about the dimensional world around us will be nullified as we would then be in the fourth dimension (the third dimension but at multiple points through time) and in the case of being able to travel back in time to change the present day would be slipping into the sixth as when you "bent" time and space to take your fifth dimensional self back to meet up with yourself in the fourth dimension to trigger the events to create a second, third or fourth present day, in the sixth dimension.
Teleportation theory is quite different, due to the laws of matter, it is physically impossible to move matter directly between two unconnected points. For example;
X = 23 Y = 40 Z = 1 > X = 24 Y = 40 Z = 1, Would be possible.
X = 23 Y = 40 Z = 1 > X = 17 Y = 80 Z = 150, Would not be directly possible.
This means that once you enter the teleportation device, you would in fact be split into atoms and effectively destroyed. What would be transported though would be a datagraphical representation of you at the point where you entered the machine, again not yourself due to the fact you were destroyed when entering the machine. Once the data reaches point B, it is rebuilt into an actual representation of the original you, but remembering that you were destroyed when entering, the person that leaves the exit point would not be you, but actually an exact copy of yourself, a clone of sorts.
On a related note, I had a brainwave a few weeks ago. When you dream, the events that occur in your mind could be an exact recreation of what you have previously seen (a extremely low chance) but generally, they contain people you have already met, places you have already been and things you have already seen, somewhat blended together. Now who's to say that the events that did happen in your dream couldn't have been a possibility of your own existence in the past? Having said this, it is usually an idealistic scenario that occurs so if the events were to happen you would probably have needed to have made multiple changes to your past for these events to happen, but, no matter how warped and different from your current reality it could have always being a possibility. I'm waffling now, but long story short, dreaming could be described as seeing into the fifth dimension.
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
One thing I don't understand: how can you say "physically impossible" and apply to the world if you don't even know how world really works???
All "physical" know ledges humanity have can only give you formulas to predict behavior of some objects in some controlled environment. They can't explain WHY, so it's kidna stupid to say "impossible" to something you have no idea about.
Take Newton's laws for example. We learned them in school and learned how to use them. But it doesn't mean we (any human) know how and why gravity works. And you're talking about global time/space, not knowing basic things.
You also mentioned dreams. Science don't know what dream is.
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
True, as far it is now; once you enter a teleportation device, your atoms will be split up and reformed at the other gateway. Effectively destroying you and rebuilding you instantly, yet, the rebuilded you will never be the same as the original one since some things can't be rebuilded exactly the same.
I do believe teleportation will be possible. But as far as I know, once you meet up your real you in the past you will end up in a time paradox.
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
I don't think teleportation as it is now will ever be applied to human.
There must be another way (holes of some kind may be)
And yes of course, inforamtion transfer method of teleportation WILL kill you, it is obvious.
About time paradoxes: there are a LOT of theories, movies, books about it.
No one really knows what will happend.
Another question: do you think fate exists? This will make time-travel problem even worse.
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
Well we actually do know why gravity and such exist and how they function. But that are things they don't teach you in high school. Way too hard 
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
dont we have 11 dimensions already ?
also. read up on some quantum physics theories. they also shed some light on these kind of things. i
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
exactly man, a LOT OF THEORIES, and each one can give you some math to PREDICT, not to EXPLAIN. Btw as far as I heard quantum physics failed at some points already and can't be used as universal theory.
and as far as I can see if we had any clue of nature of gravity we could build anti-gravity already.
and h2o, don't forget to share your theaory with guys spending this moment billions of dollars to built a catcher (don't know correct english word for this) for gravity particles. As far as I know their previous experiments ended with zero results.
also: I mean guys, really, 500 years ago people were sure about things we can laugh on now, as much as we sure about some modern science. I believe we should not bother about anything like this, everything is possible, this is crazy world and I rather believe in matrix-type of universe.
Why not? Prove it wrong!
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
to travel through time you'd have to move faster than light. Everything with speed of light moves on the edges of this pin http://topsurfen.net/vko12.JPG
Right now it's impossible to speed up any object with a mass because the energy needed for this progress is endless and exponential. This is similar to riding a car at high speed. It takes a lot more fuel the faster you are. Only elements without any masses such as quantums can move with light speed. That's what I know about it currently, but I'm just in my third semester. Don't know anything about the progress of teleportation, though. IMO that's just a thing of scifi the way it is presented in hollywood movies.
and myaka, we do know how gravitation works. 
Gravitation is actually the power of huge masses which interact with each other. The power of our sun pulls the planets on ellipses around it. The acceleration is what causes our earth gravity. Wikipedia can be informative, too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
well i'm pretty sure that our dreams really are figments of our imaginations and not memories of a past life in another dimension or atleast i hope not because the other dimension would involve me slaying alot of bears with my own hands which is pretty unrealistic. if you ever talk to people about their dreams and take their encounters into consideration then i would really have to call bogus on that theory.
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
Ok, Kire, so cool that you know how gravity works. So now you don't mind a few questions becuase this info I can sell for a LOT of money.
So huge it is power of huge masses, right? Bigger mass, huger power? So I actually have 1 question: how this power translated? Do you understand what I mean? How interaction between 2 objects is performed? You can ask your professor if you like and I bet best theory he can hit you with is bended space theory, which explains nothing actually. So is there a tiny particles translating energy of gravity between objects or what?
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Re: Teleportation/Time Travel: Why it will never be possible.
tannydore wrote:
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fail. this stuff is one of the most interesting things in science imo.
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