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(#31)
tierzero
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I prefer mac, but on windows you can do more things, such as office work etc.


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(#32)
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I have a windows...but I would want a Mac


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Amo il mio Lecce!!!!
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Id like to get a mac but they are too overpriced and the overall system is too closed in. PC all the way for me.

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PC !!
it's much easier to use for me,

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PC user here. ^^
friendly user and cheap . lol

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For me, it's all a matter of preference on the OS. I have used Photoshop on both and have not encountered any enormous differences between the two other than Keyboard shortcuts and OS abilities. One thing is sure, having or using a Mac to do photo manipulation will not make you a better designer.

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Working in an advertising agency thought me alot! When doing prepress work, PC tend to crash. An A0 or 970x2050 mm (standard roll-up dimensions) at 300 DPI would take forever on a PC, mostly because it handles the back processes different. Macs are for designers, because they were designed to work with the software the designers need: Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, Quark etc. They did it from the beginning, that's why professionals choose it over PC. Another thing is that Macs have just plain better color management and screen-print calibration systems and results. And while making some RGB files to show online doesn't require special calibration, when working with large amounts of documents, done on many systems, specially if there are big money involved, when working with CMYK files it counts.
PC users tend to compare the numbers only when analyzing performance benchmarks, but a dual core 2.8 Intel on a Mac works with as much as 33% faster than on a PC, because the architecture is different.
In the price of a Mac they included software price also. Otherwise, numbers could drop to at least 25% in prices. When buying a PC, let's say an 1000 $ one, you pay only for the OS, IF you choose to. Otherwise you can drop the price to 900$ and have an barebone one. If you wanted the software existent on a standard Mac, (like mail, a good browser, built-in tons-o-files reader, back-up solution, and many more...) you have to pay good cash to get it. Or you can be an douchebag and get them from torrents sites. Which I strongly advise not to!
PC users have long lost exclusivity in gaming: Macs now have most of the good games available on PC, and the free built-in Parallels Desktop offers you the possibility to install a Windows OS, so you can waste your professional design station playing games (which you have to BUY, because we are civilized people).
Another issue is the fact that many professional software is available only on a Mac (Avid, for example).
I won't brag the OSX now, there are others that did so until now.
The new slim keyboard they released: I personally never typed so relaxed and fast.

The downside... no 3DsMax (:sob)

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@tierzero Office solutions are available for macs in 3 shapes: MS OFFICE (yeah, the same one); OpenOffice.org; and iWork!

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Disagreed with above.

I work with mac at 2 design agencies and with my own business I use a PC. Everytime when I get back home, I think it's a releave to be on my PC again. Though we got the newest Mac's at work, I keep liking my PC for many different reasons. When I'm on a mac, I got this "closed" feeling. On a PC, I know I can change everything I like and install everything I want.

Also; My PC can handle 300DPI A0 clearly (although my question is: when are you gonna make a A0 poster on 300 DPI, that's ridicilous.) When saving it and when exporting it. The macs I use at work tend to "force to quit the program" because it counters on unknown problems. It's simply too large.

My personal experience with a mac is cool and I sure want to have a mac for myself. But more to say I got an Apple. I prefer PC above Macs, because I have basicly total control on everything I do.

About office works: I really hate, again, hate, office works on macs with what program so ever. I only use InDesign for text formats @ Mac, but I really hate using the office packs for mac. Same with dreamweaver and flash. They both are drama to work with on a mac.

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Yes, you go boy! 24 GB of useless spent money! Because no OS can handle more than 4 GB (you've wasted good money on the rest of 20GB)! We'll see how much RAM will Snow Leopard and Windows 7 support, but from what I've read, it's a 16 GB max, and that requires special hardware, to be compatible. And... for God's sake! 24??? Were you on acid? Leopard flows with 2, warps with 4! Why did you do that? Windows Vista (if you have compatible hardware mixed) is just fine with 4! And the system mentioned by you... costs 1200 buck... right? Where did you get it? A pawn shop? Did you pay someone 1200$ to steal it for you? Because right now I'm watching over some offers and your system costs at minimum 2300-2500 (that is with good pieces of hardware, not chinese faked ones). And that is without the display. Or did you got one at 30", better than the Apple Cinema LED Display, for less than.... dunno... 5 bucks?

iGod wrote:

Maybe your Station was crap. Mine's not. I build it myself. for less than 1200 Bucks.

MY Workstation:
Intel Core i7 running @ 4,2 GHz
24 GB RAM DDR3 (upgradable to 32, even if no one needs it, at least not yet wink)
ATI Radeon HD4870 X2 and a FireGL (work over a switch, can choose which card is used in windows) gonna switch that 4870 out by a new 4890 big_smile

We all know that you pay by buying a Dell just the logo, like Apple.

imo mac's are more powerful for anything graphic/video related.

Total junk.

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Everyone is entitled to their opinions. But I brought facts, you bring your feeling. I don't know why your macs crash, or why you are unable to customize it anyway you like, but my best guess is that you don't really know how to use one (correctly and efficiently, I mean).
The A0 poster is quite used lately, because A4 ones tend to be a little too little for ... ehm... display?!!? And why the hell is everyone bragging with their jobs, like this is supposed to be a valid and solid argument?

Jurgt wrote:

Disagreed with above.

I work with mac at 2 design agencies and with my own business I use a PC. Everytime when I get back home, I think it's a releave to be on my PC again. Though we got the newest Mac's at work, I keep liking my PC for many different reasons. When I'm on a mac, I got this "closed" feeling. On a PC, I know I can change everything I like and install everything I want.

Also; My PC can handle 300DPI A0 clearly (although my question is: when are you gonna make a A0 poster on 300 DPI, that's ridicilous.) When saving it and when exporting it. The macs I use at work tend to "force to quit the program" because it counters on unknown problems. It's simply too large.

My personal experience with a mac is cool and I sure want to have a mac for myself. But more to say I got an Apple. I prefer PC above Macs, because I have basicly total control on everything I do.

About office works: I really hate, again, hate, office works on macs with what program so ever. I only use InDesign for text formats @ Mac, but I really hate using the office packs for mac. Same with dreamweaver and flash. They both are drama to work with on a mac.

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I have recently purchased a mac and I have to say I'm in love with it. Ive been using windows most of my life and just got fed up of being plagued by constant problems. If you have the money buy a mac, you will not regret it.

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I've heard that Macs are quite nice for graphic arts, though personally, I use a PC.  I've always used one and always will.  Though, I've heard Macs with Vista are pretty nice as well.  I'll see what road I take, might use a Mac in college, but I can't imagine changing...

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Jurgt
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Everyone is, and I'm not saying any other opinion is wrong. I just disagree with some opinions.
I think a feeling is a better (experience) way to compare macs and pc then onyl technical aspects and whatever. It's the same like "wow, new cellphone, great specs, bla bla bla", but turned out not to work that nice as you hoped it did.

About jobs? Well, I'm mainly using the computers I work on for work purposes. And since I'm mainly at work, that is my personal experience with the computers. About A0: sure, but A0 in 300DPI is a bit.... big, don't ya think?  Most printers print A0 @ 100 to 150 DPI, which is very normal for a size that big. 300 DPI @ A0 is way overrated. The quality "loss" by reducing A0 posters with 150 DPI is MINIMAL to none.  About facts speaking: this is a fact !!!!?!?!.

Custom: of course, I can and give my own twist, but as undream mentioned, there is not open source. There is no freedom to do whatever you like and install whatever crap you find. I'm far from a tweeter or far from a nerd, but I do know that I don't like to look for special made MAC programs, or buy ever product which is free (open source) on the PC.

Yea, the mac is nice, it's glossy, it has a name, but as I said, my opinion is still that I prefer work on a PC.



darie.alex wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. But I brought facts, you bring your feeling. I don't know why your macs crash, or why you are unable to customize it anyway you like, but my best guess is that you don't really know how to use one (correctly and efficiently, I mean).
The A0 poster is quite used lately, because A4 ones tend to be a little too little for ... ehm... display?!!? And why the hell is everyone bragging with their jobs, like this is supposed to be a valid and solid argument?

Jurgt wrote:

Disagreed with above.

I work with mac at 2 design agencies and with my own business I use a PC. Everytime when I get back home, I think it's a releave to be on my PC again. Though we got the newest Mac's at work, I keep liking my PC for many different reasons. When I'm on a mac, I got this "closed" feeling. On a PC, I know I can change everything I like and install everything I want.

Also; My PC can handle 300DPI A0 clearly (although my question is: when are you gonna make a A0 poster on 300 DPI, that's ridicilous.) When saving it and when exporting it. The macs I use at work tend to "force to quit the program" because it counters on unknown problems. It's simply too large.

My personal experience with a mac is cool and I sure want to have a mac for myself. But more to say I got an Apple. I prefer PC above Macs, because I have basicly total control on everything I do.

About office works: I really hate, again, hate, office works on macs with what program so ever. I only use InDesign for text formats @ Mac, but I really hate using the office packs for mac. Same with dreamweaver and flash. They both are drama to work with on a mac.

 
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